— Back to Blog

Interstellar Intelligence…Does it Exist?

Interstellar Intelligence…Does it Exist?

  • Throughout history, we humans have searched for a way to know whether we’re alone in the universe. And for millennia, we’ve experienced strange happenings that suggest we are definitely not the only intelligent beings in existence.
  • Jay Anderson, founder of Project Unity, is dedicated to exploring Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), aka UFOs, particularly in light of newly declassified information from the U.S. Department of Defense.
  • Why is the Pentagon choosing transparency, or at least a version of it, right now? Why are “encounters” with UAP increasing?

The topic of UFOs has long been subject to stigma and ridicule, making it difficult for credible witnesses to come forward and share their experiences. But in recent years we’ve seen a profound cultural shift in how UFO sightings are perceived, with prominent officials and scientists openly discussing the possibility of extraterrestrial life and technologies.

Project Unity, a YouTube channel, podcast and virtual community, is a “symbiosis between what we could call spirit and science, or physics and metaphysics, logic and intuition,” says Jay Anderson

Jay leads a new generation of researchers focusing on UFOs, which are more commonly described today as Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP). 

He began Project Unity in an “organic” way, uploading casual videos of himself talking directly to the camera about UAP news.

“Over time, I was fortunate enough to get introduced to a few people who then became guests and it became me doing interviews,” he adds. “From there, my network over the last few years has grown exponentially.”

Today, Project Unity is a hub for Jay’s interviews with congressmen and scientists as well as high-ranking military and intelligence personnel.

To make the case for taking UAP research seriously, Jay joined David Dorr for the first installment of a brand-new series on Top Traders Unplugged: “Galactic Macro.” Read on for highlights of their conversation, including Pentagon declassification, how AI might create an upswing in UAP encounters and the long history of unidentified phenomena.

From the atom bomb to AI

“I really do hope I can come across as sensible and rational,” Jay tells David as they begin their conversation. “Because this subject is pretty outlandish and it does require a little bit of a suspension of disbelief at times.” 

That’s not a problem for David, whose company Dorr Asset Management specializes in macro investing with a future-forward focus. He believes that extraterrestrial technology exists on Earth and has profound consequences for energy, defense, travel and just about every aspect of modern life. In fact, David dropped in a few months ago to talk about some of the most famous UFO sightings in American history — including a 2004 encounter between U.S. Navy fighter pilots and a UAP. The USS Nimitz incident particularly stands out because it was caught on an infrared video, which clearly depicts a sleek, self-propelled object colloquially called a “Tic Tac.” (For a recap of highlights from our discussion with David, check out our weekly deep dive from April 1.)

This giant hovering “mint” is just one instance of credible video evidence in the Pentagon’s possession.  

Recently, we’ve seen an exponential increase in encounters (“or whatever we want to label it,” says Jay). Some of that uptick is a result of fine-tuning our radar data and better technology overall. However, “the last time we were close to having this many encounters was after creating the atomic bomb,” Jay points out. “Our Chief Technology Officer’s view is that maybe this has something to do with the inflection point of AI.”

The last time encounters happened at this pace, “the monkeys [that’s us] discovered nuclear bombs,” Jay adds. “Now we’ve figured out artificial intelligence or we’re at that crossover point.”

We’re on the precipice of a new chapter, one that could prove to be a “revolution of the human species,” he adds. “It’s a very strange time we live in — highly fluidic, highly dynamic — and we’re in a hyper-accelerated version of evolution. Nothing else on this planet is doing what we’re doing. We are in some ways giving birth to the flying saucer. We’re moving from the monkey to the flying saucer.”

Amorphous and outlandish

Jay considers himself a layman who’s interested in quantum physics and consciousness studies “I think that these two are actually basically the same thing; they just haven’t realized it yet,” he says. 

“I’m quite open-minded to different perspectives on what reality really is,” he adds. He admits that the subject of UAPs has a “steep learning curve.” It’s a dynamic curve, too: The deeper Jay delves into UAP studies, the more “amorphous” these UAPs can look like. 

“It changes over time; it shifts. It could be the same thing that was noted down as the wheels of Ezekiel in the Bible — these wheels within wheels coming down from the sky and it was a message from God,” he explains. “Obviously, that’s how it’s interpreted. Now it’s the Tic Tac flying past [U.S. Navy pilot] David Fravor.”

Why is the Pentagon talking now?

UAPs have a long history with “echoes of similar capabilities but in different manifestations,” Jay explains. 

“There are even examples of flaming swords and shields in Roman battles that they witnessed and wrote down about. There’s talk of spherical objects in dynastic Egypt in some of the texts. There are the vimanas in India and the ancient Sanskrit teachings of flying castles and vehicles. Even in the 1800s, we had this weird flap of Zeppelin-type airships.”

But ever since the USS Nimitz pilots went on the record with the “Tic Tac” story, “we’ve seen a continuing evolution in governmental discourse coming from the U.S.,” Jay points out. 

So why has the U.S. government accelerated its disclosures now?  

There are a few possible explanations, says Jay. The one that’s “been sold to us” is that a few “outlier” government workers with high-level security clearances leaked UAP-related information because they saw it wasn’t reaching the upper chain of command. Deputy Assistant Secretary Christopher Mellon became disgruntled with the barriers around all things UAP and blew the whistle. The former director of the DoD’s now-defunct Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) Luis Elizon (who, Jay notes, is a career counterintelligence officer) did the same, resigning in protest and sharing the information he had with the New York Times in 2017. 

These particular accounts are about “bold patriotic belief and the sacrifice of personal success for the greater good,” Jay says. “Whether they’re entirely true or not is another story.” 

The Pentagon’s narrative “also ties into a very strange little ‘glitch in the matrix,’” he adds. 

That glitch is 47-year-old musician and entrepreneur Tom DeLonge, who rose to fame as the lead singer of the pop-punk band Blink 182 in the late 1990s. A longtime UAP enthusiast, DeLonge channeled his wealth into launching several startups, including a “fringe science” research and film production company called To the Stars. The company has produced a TV documentary on the government’s UAP secrets (which includes interviews with the Nimitz crew, as well as the AATIP’s Luis Elizon) and released previously classified videos of close encounters. 

“You can’t make this shit up,” David remarks to Jay, who replies: “We are in the matrix.” 

ET reaches across the aisle

The discourse led all the way to a modern-day miracle: broad bipartisan support within Congress and the Senate to investigate the legacy and modern-day involvement of our government and military intelligence infrastructure. The Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023 established whistleblower protection laws for government workers under UAP-related non-disclosure agreements. The bill also demands a multi-agency investigation into the actionable intelligence the U.S. has gathered since 1945.  

As it turns out, the mere possibility of extraterrestrials just might finally unite America. 

“It’s certainly no longer acceptable to simply laugh this subject away,” says Jay. “I think only those who are radically uninformed on the modern-day conversation are able to do that.”

And with that, my friends: Consider yourself informed. 👽


This is based on an episode of Top Traders Unplugged, a bi-weekly podcast with the most interesting and experienced investors, economists, traders and thought leaders in the world. Sign up to our Newsletter or Subscribe on your preferred podcast platform so that you don’t miss out on future episodes.