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00:00 - Intro
03:31 - Introduction to Susan and her work
08:07 - What is the 21st Century China Center?
10:37 - Why did Susan write the book?
16:27 - How did the overreach begin?
24:58 - Purging a corrupt system
31:36 - Examples of derailed politics
37:25 - Dealing with Covid19 protests
45:02 - From peaceful to totalitarian
48:18 - Getting back to a peaceful rise
55:34 - Fear of going to back to China?
01:00:14 - Key takeaways from Niels